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	<title>Comments on: Search Engine Optimization for the Basic Webpage with Flash</title>
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		<title>By: Patronpath Launches New Web Presence &#124; The Marketing Technology Blog</title>
		<link>http://marketingtechblog.com/2007/10/13/tracy-garnier-real-estate-indianapolis/comment-page-1/#comment-113188</link>
		<dc:creator>Patronpath Launches New Web Presence &#124; The Marketing Technology Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 19:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at the website that was up. It was pure flash, no pages, no back-end optimization (although SWFObject was loaded), no means of updating the content&#8230; and most of all, no [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at the website that was up. It was pure flash, no pages, no back-end optimization (although SWFObject was loaded), no means of updating the content&#8230; and most of all, no [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Garnier is in for the $1,000 Giveaway! Only 2 Slots left!!! &#124; The Marketing Technology Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy Garnier is in for the $1,000 Giveaway! Only 2 Slots left!!! &#124; The Marketing Technology Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that read my feed!Tracy Garnier is a client of mine here in Indianapolis that I&#8217;m doing some search engine optimization for. I&#8217;ve made quite a few changes to Tracy&#8217;s website and am waiting patiently for it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that read my feed!Tracy Garnier is a client of mine here in Indianapolis that I&#8217;m doing some search engine optimization for. I&#8217;ve made quite a few changes to Tracy&#8217;s website and am waiting patiently for it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Karr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Karr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matt,

I&#039;ve read a lot of information on this as well and Google has not said that it would penalize anyone for utilizing this method but they will penalize people for using deceitful methods to push content.  

Since the content IS viewable to those without javascript enabled or Flash installed, it does NOT violate Google&#039;s &lt;acronym title=&quot;Terms of Service&quot;&gt;TOS&lt;/a&gt;

There is one thread that has &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-Indexing/browse_thread/thread/b4af02fbefe2190a/09f72ba1a5528b1b?lnk=gst&amp;q=swfobject#09f72ba1a5528b1b&quot;&gt;some information that is useful&lt;/a&gt; (be sure to read the follow-up comments).

One thing to keep an eye out for is an ACTUAL example of Google penalizing someone.  I&#039;ve not seen an example yet and this method is utilized through thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of sites.

Doug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read a lot of information on this as well and Google has not said that it would penalize anyone for utilizing this method but they will penalize people for using deceitful methods to push content.  </p>
<p>Since the content IS viewable to those without javascript enabled or Flash installed, it does NOT violate Google&#8217;s <acronym title="Terms of Service">TOS</p>
<p>There is one thread that has <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-Indexing/browse_thread/thread/b4af02fbefe2190a/09f72ba1a5528b1b?lnk=gst&#038;q=swfobject#09f72ba1a5528b1b">some information that is useful</a> (be sure to read the follow-up comments).</p>
<p>One thing to keep an eye out for is an ACTUAL example of Google penalizing someone.  I&#8217;ve not seen an example yet and this method is utilized through thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of sites.</p>
<p>Doug</acronym></p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard conflicting stories that google doesn&#039;t like swf object or other content swapping scripts because it can be used deceitfully, ie. the content you swap out could be different than the &#039;search engine content&#039;. What&#039;s your experience with this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard conflicting stories that google doesn&#8217;t like swf object or other content swapping scripts because it can be used deceitfully, ie. the content you swap out could be different than the &#8217;search engine content&#8217;. What&#8217;s your experience with this?</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Karr</title>
		<link>http://marketingtechblog.com/2007/10/13/tracy-garnier-real-estate-indianapolis/comment-page-1/#comment-60061</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Karr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dan,

I would absolutely agree with you.  Flash intensive sites make for a fantastic user experience, but the benefits of having dynamic content indexed by a search engine far outweigh it.  How great can a site be if no one can find it?

That said, great Flash programmers are able to overcome this by utilizing HTML or textual content from the pages in the Flash content... so the content can still be structured and optimized for search engines AND you can, perhaps, have a back-end for modifying that content.

SWF Object simply swaps the content of the div with the actual flash at run-time.  You can use it to pass content as well, though.  See the advanced notes of the sample code.  Since it&#039;s passed as a parameter, though, I don&#039;t believe it would benefit as much as HTML content itself.

So - to respond to your comment... it &#039;could&#039; be done.  However, I&#039;ve rarely seen a Flash developer skilled or motivated enough to do it.  Personally, I would avoid it.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan,</p>
<p>I would absolutely agree with you.  Flash intensive sites make for a fantastic user experience, but the benefits of having dynamic content indexed by a search engine far outweigh it.  How great can a site be if no one can find it?</p>
<p>That said, great Flash programmers are able to overcome this by utilizing HTML or textual content from the pages in the Flash content&#8230; so the content can still be structured and optimized for search engines AND you can, perhaps, have a back-end for modifying that content.</p>
<p>SWF Object simply swaps the content of the div with the actual flash at run-time.  You can use it to pass content as well, though.  See the advanced notes of the sample code.  Since it&#8217;s passed as a parameter, though, I don&#8217;t believe it would benefit as much as HTML content itself.</p>
<p>So &#8211; to respond to your comment&#8230; it &#8216;could&#8217; be done.  However, I&#8217;ve rarely seen a Flash developer skilled or motivated enough to do it.  Personally, I would avoid it.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Tushinski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Tushinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 01:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did her site also have some content to accompany the flash or was it all flash? Just curious because I am in a dog fight convincing a client that all flash, even with SWFObject, is not the best route to take. I&#039;d be interested to hear an update as to whether or not the content placed in the SWFObject div was indexed. Great article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did her site also have some content to accompany the flash or was it all flash? Just curious because I am in a dog fight convincing a client that all flash, even with SWFObject, is not the best route to take. I&#8217;d be interested to hear an update as to whether or not the content placed in the SWFObject div was indexed. Great article</p>
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