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	<title>Comments on: 5 Wishes for Browsers&#8230; er Opera</title>
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		<title>By: Internet Explorer Rethinks its Usability &#124; The Marketing Technology Blog</title>
		<link>http://marketingtechblog.com/2007/07/24/opera-wishes/comment-page-1/#comment-59331</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet Explorer Rethinks its Usability &#124; The Marketing Technology Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] course, I still believe the browser who will stomp the competition first will be the browser that introduces the most &#8216;out of the box&#8217; user interface components. Without any requirement for a download, if I could program in a datagrid, HTML editor, calendar [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] course, I still believe the browser who will stomp the competition first will be the browser that introduces the most &#8216;out of the box&#8217; user interface components. Without any requirement for a download, if I could program in a datagrid, HTML editor, calendar [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hallvord R. M. Steen</title>
		<link>http://marketingtechblog.com/2007/07/24/opera-wishes/comment-page-1/#comment-54208</link>
		<dc:creator>Hallvord R. M. Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mart, the hypothesis about Opera being the culprit needs some testing - so sorry about the comment spam ;)

Doug, maybe you have some &quot;comment security&quot; plugin that thinks the comment is a cross-site scripting attack?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mart, the hypothesis about Opera being the culprit needs some testing &#8211; so sorry about the comment spam <img src='http://marketingtechblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Doug, maybe you have some &#8220;comment security&#8221; plugin that thinks the comment is a cross-site scripting attack?</p>
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		<title>By: Thoughts on Design &#187; 5 Opera Wishes</title>
		<link>http://marketingtechblog.com/2007/07/24/opera-wishes/comment-page-1/#comment-52890</link>
		<dc:creator>Thoughts on Design &#187; 5 Opera Wishes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] check out the wish lists at Modifoo and Douglas Karr, they&#8217;re both quite [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] check out the wish lists at Modifoo and Douglas Karr, they&#8217;re both quite [...]</p>
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		<title>By: modifoo</title>
		<link>http://marketingtechblog.com/2007/07/24/opera-wishes/comment-page-1/#comment-52413</link>
		<dc:creator>modifoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...maybe it is because he is using Opera? :)

Btw, the trackback does not seem to be working - on my &quot;5 wishes&quot; from yours...   Could this be related (I guess I just outed myself as a non-programmer?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;maybe it is because he is using Opera? <img src='http://marketingtechblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Btw, the trackback does not seem to be working &#8211; on my &#8220;5 wishes&#8221; from yours&#8230;   Could this be related (I guess I just outed myself as a non-programmer?)</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Karr</title>
		<link>http://marketingtechblog.com/2007/07/24/opera-wishes/comment-page-1/#comment-52307</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Karr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hallvord,

I&#039;m working on why your comment isn&#039;t displaying... some bug somewhere!  Argh!

Doug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hallvord,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m working on why your comment isn&#8217;t displaying&#8230; some bug somewhere!  Argh!</p>
<p>Doug</p>
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		<title>By: Hallvord R. M. Steen</title>
		<link>http://marketingtechblog.com/2007/07/24/opera-wishes/comment-page-1/#comment-52250</link>
		<dc:creator>Hallvord R. M. Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good list, and the last point is especially thought provoking. &lt;a href=&quot;http://dev.opera.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://dev.opera.com/&lt;/a&gt; exists and has some good content but how is anyone supposed to find it, eh?  The good news is that many of your wishes might happen sooner than you think - what about&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#datagrid&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WHATWG&#039;s datagrid spec&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#video&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WHATWG&#039;s video spec&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://labs.opera.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an Opera preview version with VIDEO support.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Not entirely clear to me what you had in mind with the posting and retrieval statements, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#editing&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the contentEditable spec&lt;/a&gt; would supply most of the &quot;plumbing&quot;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Charting is an interesting wish that AFAIK isn&#039;t on any roadmap, but what about Opera&#039;s decent &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/#graphics&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SVG support&lt;/a&gt;? With a little bit of scripting, you&#039;ll get your charts.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good list, and the last point is especially thought provoking. <a href="http://dev.opera.com/" rel="nofollow">http://dev.opera.com/</a> exists and has some good content but how is anyone supposed to find it, eh?  The good news is that many of your wishes might happen sooner than you think &#8211; what about
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<li><a href="http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#datagrid" rel="nofollow">WHATWG&#8217;s datagrid spec</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#video" rel="nofollow">WHATWG&#8217;s video spec</a> and <a href="http://labs.opera.com/" rel="nofollow">an Opera preview version with VIDEO support.</a></li>
<li>Not entirely clear to me what you had in mind with the posting and retrieval statements, but <a href="http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#editing" rel="nofollow">the contentEditable spec</a> would supply most of the &#8220;plumbing&#8221;.</li>
<li>Charting is an interesting wish that AFAIK isn&#8217;t on any roadmap, but what about Opera&#8217;s decent <a href="http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/#graphics" rel="nofollow">SVG support</a>? With a little bit of scripting, you&#8217;ll get your charts.</li>
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		<title>By: modifoo</title>
		<link>http://marketingtechblog.com/2007/07/24/opera-wishes/comment-page-1/#comment-52240</link>
		<dc:creator>modifoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I totally agree that Opera has to fiind a different approach than &quot;simply&quot; pleasing the users. That way they get the (maybe) best browsers, but only 5% are actually using it. They need a different approach, and since they don&#039;t have a Microsoft leverage, they have to make up with creativity.
I like your idea about making developers feel welcomed. Very good point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing your thoughts.</p>
<p>I totally agree that Opera has to fiind a different approach than &#8220;simply&#8221; pleasing the users. That way they get the (maybe) best browsers, but only 5% are actually using it. They need a different approach, and since they don&#8217;t have a Microsoft leverage, they have to make up with creativity.<br />
I like your idea about making developers feel welcomed. Very good point.</p>
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