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	<title>Comments on: 5 Reasons to NOT upload your Music or Videos to a Third Party</title>
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		<title>By: Marvin Patton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marvin Patton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please let us know what you think about Ourstage.com.  My wife and I are both songwriters and we have placed quite a few songs on their site.  The first few days we were placed in the top 10 with a few even going to number one in our region and after 4 to 5 days, all our songs drop to the bottom or middle of the ratings and the voting of our songs don&#039;t make a lick of sense to either one of us?? They claim that all rights remain ours and that all sales will go to our paypal account but so far we haven&#039;t made a bloody penny off of our posted songs.  Are we being taken for a ride?  I did read most of the agreement but not all.  I ass-u-med everything was on the up and up but after reading your five reasons I&#039;m not so sure?

Thank you for your blog.  Have a good day and may you feel the blessings of what life and love have for you on a day to day basis. 

In His Blessed name, 

Marvin Patton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please let us know what you think about Ourstage.com.  My wife and I are both songwriters and we have placed quite a few songs on their site.  The first few days we were placed in the top 10 with a few even going to number one in our region and after 4 to 5 days, all our songs drop to the bottom or middle of the ratings and the voting of our songs don&#8217;t make a lick of sense to either one of us?? They claim that all rights remain ours and that all sales will go to our paypal account but so far we haven&#8217;t made a bloody penny off of our posted songs.  Are we being taken for a ride?  I did read most of the agreement but not all.  I ass-u-med everything was on the up and up but after reading your five reasons I&#8217;m not so sure?</p>
<p>Thank you for your blog.  Have a good day and may you feel the blessings of what life and love have for you on a day to day basis. </p>
<p>In His Blessed name, </p>
<p>Marvin Patton</p>
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		<title>By: Kiqlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiqlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here a valid alternative &lt;a href=&quot;www.kiqlo.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kiqlo&lt;/a&gt;
Kiqlo is not interested in the getting the rights on your content. Kiqlo allow you to sell your content while you keep your copyright. You can upload it for free, sell it for free and Kiqlo does not take any cut out of it. It is true! No Catch!
You can download, upload without login. If you want to sell you need to be logged in. It is a new concept but it is exactly for this purpose. 

Kiqlo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here a valid alternative <a href="www.kiqlo.com" rel="nofollow">Kiqlo</a><br />
Kiqlo is not interested in the getting the rights on your content. Kiqlo allow you to sell your content while you keep your copyright. You can upload it for free, sell it for free and Kiqlo does not take any cut out of it. It is true! No Catch!<br />
You can download, upload without login. If you want to sell you need to be logged in. It is a new concept but it is exactly for this purpose. </p>
<p>Kiqlo</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Karr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Karr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Timothy,

All of the major companies have been revamping their terms of use and continue to do so on an ongoing basis.  It would require continuous review.  I&#039;m only warning people that they must review all terms of use before uploading anything they &#039;think&#039; they own.  I would hate to see someone lose the rights to their music or video simply by uploading it to a server... where someone else can make a buck off of it!

Regards,
Doug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Timothy,</p>
<p>All of the major companies have been revamping their terms of use and continue to do so on an ongoing basis.  It would require continuous review.  I&#8217;m only warning people that they must review all terms of use before uploading anything they &#8216;think&#8217; they own.  I would hate to see someone lose the rights to their music or video simply by uploading it to a server&#8230; where someone else can make a buck off of it!</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Doug</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Hogan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Hogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please tell us of which great companies you speak at the end of your post!  You leave me hanging! I would love to maintain all rights over my music, yet I am forced to utilize some mediums for the simple fact that is where the audience lies.  

I happen to think social architecture sites, REAL ones, such as tribe.net are ripe grounds for artist controlled media dispersal. At this juncture that particular one is without music hosting capabilities, yet it does allow embedded links to content sites like YouTube.  I have a MySpace account which is linked with SnowCap, wherin I may set the price of the song, which they then markup. I have only been toying with it and need more exposure, so I have to consider hosting my work elsewhere.  The large sites seem to be on the verge of saturation and fully slanted to video over sound only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please tell us of which great companies you speak at the end of your post!  You leave me hanging! I would love to maintain all rights over my music, yet I am forced to utilize some mediums for the simple fact that is where the audience lies.  </p>
<p>I happen to think social architecture sites, REAL ones, such as tribe.net are ripe grounds for artist controlled media dispersal. At this juncture that particular one is without music hosting capabilities, yet it does allow embedded links to content sites like YouTube.  I have a MySpace account which is linked with SnowCap, wherin I may set the price of the song, which they then markup. I have only been toying with it and need more exposure, so I have to consider hosting my work elsewhere.  The large sites seem to be on the verge of saturation and fully slanted to video over sound only.</p>
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		<title>By: sandra Silva</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandra Silva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 21:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does one host their own video or podcast?  I have video on my website but how do I get the masses to see it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does one host their own video or podcast?  I have video on my website but how do I get the masses to see it?</p>
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		<title>By: SurfFoo for March 30th &#124; modifoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>SurfFoo for March 30th &#124; modifoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 5 Reasons to NOT upload your Music or Videos to a Third Party - If youâ��re going to go through the trouble of cutting a video, mp3, Podcast, etcâ�¦. spend the money and host it yourself. That way you donâ��t have to agree to some of these bizarre Terms of Use. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 5 Reasons to NOT upload your Music or Videos to a Third Party &#8211; If youâ��re going to go through the trouble of cutting a video, mp3, Podcast, etcâ�¦. spend the money and host it yourself. That way you donâ��t have to agree to some of these bizarre Terms of Use. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 16:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Doug,

I just wanted to quickly remark on your article.  Kudos to you for encouraging artists considering submitting their media to a third party host/distributor.  Indeed, too many creative people fail to consider the business and legal aspects of the entertainment industry and intellectual property, and it can be easy for opportunistic people -- be they managers, agents, record labels (big or small), or website operators -- to take advantage of those who lack business acumen or a basic understanding of U.S. copyright law.

That having been said, third-party publishers and distributors are left with no choice but to require that copyright owners grant the third-party a &lt;i&gt;non-exclusive&lt;/i&gt; license to certain rights of the copyright holder (the artist), &lt;i&gt;inter alia&lt;/i&gt;the rights to reproduce, distribute, and publicly display the copyrighted material.  Otherwise, the third-party publisher is subject to liability for copyright infringement.  That is why the language in the aforementioned terms of use agreements is so similar (and our website is certainly no exception).

If a third-party publisher seeks an &lt;i&gt;exclusive&lt;/i&gt; license, then that is suspect, and that service should probably be avoided, depending on the circumstances. 

Sincerely,

James Anderson
Managing Member
Spirit of Radio LLC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Doug,</p>
<p>I just wanted to quickly remark on your article.  Kudos to you for encouraging artists considering submitting their media to a third party host/distributor.  Indeed, too many creative people fail to consider the business and legal aspects of the entertainment industry and intellectual property, and it can be easy for opportunistic people &#8212; be they managers, agents, record labels (big or small), or website operators &#8212; to take advantage of those who lack business acumen or a basic understanding of U.S. copyright law.</p>
<p>That having been said, third-party publishers and distributors are left with no choice but to require that copyright owners grant the third-party a <i>non-exclusive</i> license to certain rights of the copyright holder (the artist), <i>inter alia</i>the rights to reproduce, distribute, and publicly display the copyrighted material.  Otherwise, the third-party publisher is subject to liability for copyright infringement.  That is why the language in the aforementioned terms of use agreements is so similar (and our website is certainly no exception).</p>
<p>If a third-party publisher seeks an <i>exclusive</i> license, then that is suspect, and that service should probably be avoided, depending on the circumstances. </p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>James Anderson<br />
Managing Member<br />
Spirit of Radio LLC</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Weiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Weiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good post, Doug. 
Especially taking into account that even rich media hosting does no longer cost an arm &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; a leg...  (Here I can recommend &lt;a href=&quot;http://mediatemple.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MediaTemple&lt;/a&gt; to which I switched after having been faithful to my original server supplier for about 5 years. They have very high customer satisfaction, and I was amazed at the speed at which they reply to non-geeky customer e-mails. (And no, I am not employed by them...)

Another reason for not hosting you own content on a 3rd party is, you never know how they change their policies in the future - well, or you never know how you change yours... (Imagine that you make a cool video/song that you put online, and some marketing institution wants to buy it off you - you cannot actually sell it once you agreed to the terms that Doug has laid out...)
So: host yourself. Be happy. Be creative.

&lt;i&gt;And as a plug, here are &lt;a href=&quot;http://video.magic.as&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some videos that I shot&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good post, Doug.<br />
Especially taking into account that even rich media hosting does no longer cost an arm <i>and</i> a leg&#8230;  (Here I can recommend <a href="http://mediatemple.net" rel="nofollow">MediaTemple</a> to which I switched after having been faithful to my original server supplier for about 5 years. They have very high customer satisfaction, and I was amazed at the speed at which they reply to non-geeky customer e-mails. (And no, I am not employed by them&#8230;)</p>
<p>Another reason for not hosting you own content on a 3rd party is, you never know how they change their policies in the future &#8211; well, or you never know how you change yours&#8230; (Imagine that you make a cool video/song that you put online, and some marketing institution wants to buy it off you &#8211; you cannot actually sell it once you agreed to the terms that Doug has laid out&#8230;)<br />
So: host yourself. Be happy. Be creative.</p>
<p><i>And as a plug, here are <a href="http://video.magic.as" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">some videos that I shot</a>.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Karr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Karr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 02:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Duane,

I&#039;m currently getting 500 script error on their site... 
I&#039;ll check out the Terms of Use when they are back up.  I&#039;m not an attorney - just simply have observed many articles and discussions talking about these content aggregators truly misinforming their users on who &#039;owns&#039; the content, how it can be utilized, and whether or not the content provider could ever be compensated for the use.

Doug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Duane,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently getting 500 script error on their site&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;ll check out the Terms of Use when they are back up.  I&#8217;m not an attorney &#8211; just simply have observed many articles and discussions talking about these content aggregators truly misinforming their users on who &#8216;owns&#8217; the content, how it can be utilized, and whether or not the content provider could ever be compensated for the use.</p>
<p>Doug</p>
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		<title>By: Duane B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 01:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post. What are you thoughts on Revver.com, which splits the money earned off your content with you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post. What are you thoughts on Revver.com, which splits the money earned off your content with you?</p>
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